Exit Issue FIX that is working for me

[photoman]

To all who are having a problem with the tank stick..

I have been playing for 3 days with no problem.. here is what I did:

1 -In windows services I turned off Human Interface Device Access.
2- under control panel \ Accessibility Options\ Keyboard
un check Use sticky key
un check filter keys
un check toggle keys

\sticky Keys\settings
un check Use short cut
\filter keys\settings
un check Use short cut

3- In Maximus prefs Under controller
- set up tank stick manually (up, down, buttons, etc)
- under "Quit Executable" I took out ESC and put in player 2 button which is "2"
- under "Delays" I changed "Quit Executable" to 4

Now for the first time I can play any game, any system and quit with 1 key.

Note: You have to hold the player 2 button down until the MA screen comes back up. The screen will turn black but just keep holding down player 2.

Like I said, my son and I have been testing this out for hours and not one problem.

[spacegoogie]

Thanks for the info. I just tried what you said. I tested it on MK 2 Ver 3.1 in mame and I played for about 4min tried to exit and no go........could not exit. I had to button mash my keyboard arrows to exit. That always seems to work for me.

[photoman]

Thanks for the info. I just tried what you said. I tested it on MK 2 Ver 3.1 in mame and I played for about 4min tried to exit and no go........could not exit. I had to button mash my keyboard arrows to exit. That always seems to work for me.

did you hold the 2 player button down the whole time? or did you press it and let go before the MA screen came back?

It has been working flawless for me with any game any emulator.. even visual pinball.

[spacegoogie]

I always use my player 2 button for exit and its set with a 2 sec delay. I did change it to 4 like you said. I tried MK 3 as well and after a few min of playing I can not exit. The only way is to button mash my arrowkeys on my small usb keyboard. Also my tankstick is pluged in as: trackball /USB and controller/USB. How is yours pluged in? I swear i have tried everything in the book to get this to work. A fix just needs to be released. I emailed Xgaming about the problem also over a week ago and they have not got'N back to me.......I give up. Thanks again for the info.

[photoman]

I always use my player 2 button for exit and its set with a 2 sec delay. I did change it to 4 like you said. I tried MK 3 as well and after a few min of playing I can not exit. The only way is to button mash my arrowkeys on my small usb keyboard. Also my tankstick is pluged in as: trackball /USB and controller/USB. How is yours pluged in? I swear i have tried everything in the book to get this to work. A fix just needs to be released. I emailed Xgaming about the problem also over a week ago and they have not got'N back to me.......I give up. Thanks again for the info.

I will check when i get home how it is set. I do have the regular keyboard going through the tank stick and a regular mouse plugged in also, and no problems. You sure you hold down the two player button without letting go? dont go by seconds, just keep holding it down.

[spacegoogie]

I hold it down until the game exits. Like i said i have tried just about everything. I even took a part a usb logitech gamepad and solder wires up to it for a stand alone exit button and 50% of the time it would not exit. MA does something to make itself stop responding to inputs.
(Sorry if anything is miss typed im using my phone)

[Xenor]

I have been able to get 90% effective results in exiting a mame game by holding down my exit keys for a few seconds. Currently my exit buttons are the "2 Player Start" and the right "pinball" button closest to the front of the controller. I have noticed that if I change the settings from this in the preferences menu, holding down the exit keys again causes MA to Black Screen of Death.

This seems to be a problem with how MA polls the exit keys when quitting a game.

Most dissappointing is the fact that I found Maximus Arcade first when researching MAME front ends, and purchased a Tankstick because I saw advertisements on the MA website. MA is the reason I got a tankstick. Upon hooking the Tankstick up this evening, I soon discovered this blatant show stopping bug. After reading the threads on this forum about the issue, it seems that development on MA has all but stopped and the many Tankstick-owning customers of MA are being left high and dry. This is poor business practice and is unacceptable.

[photoman]

Well this really sucks. Maximus is a good front end. But like I have said, I am not having a problem with what I posted above. Every game and every emulator exits fine. Maybe mameseer should find out why mine is working ok.

I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN EXIT OK... what is the difference??

Mameseer ... I command you to contact me to figure this out!!

[Xenor]

Update: For the time last evening I was messing around with trying to get it working I found one configuration that was fairly consistent. It is related to Photoman's working solution. I will outline my setup below.

Configuration:
--X-Arcade Tankstick via USB for trackball and controls, both plugged into USB hub. OS is Windows 7 Ultimate x64. MA version 2.10 b10 - Registered.
* Disabled HID Device Access as Photoman suggested.
* Remap "Volume Control" (originally player 1 start, 1) to right player bottom left button next to joystick (can't remember the keypress associated, will find out and edit post).
* Remap "Favorites" (originally player 2 start, 2) to right player bottom right button next to joystick (can't remember the keypress associated, will find out and edit post).
*Map Player 1 Start (1) to Exit Frontend
*Map Player 2 Start (2) to Exit Gameplay (return to Frontend)
*Set delay to 4 seconds on Exit Frontend
*Set delay to 4 seconds on Exit Gameplay

Results:
I was 100% able to get back to the frontend if I held the Player 2 Start button until the emulator fully exited and MA was displayed. This worked in MAME and Nestopia emulators. Sometimes it took a few seconds. Perhaps once or twice, if I attempted to exit MAME using Player 2 Start while a game was still loading the emulator wouldn't again exit back to the MA frontend. I do not count these instances, just because I may have not let the system process data before I started holding the exit button. While this seems to work so far, for me at least, this workaround is satisfactory at best. Unfortunately, my confidence is not high that this configuration will work for everyone due to different hardware configurations, drivers, and operating system behavior.

While this seems to work so far, for me at least, this workaround is satisfactory at best. I still submit that the lack of customer support and bug fixes is unacceptable. In the meantime, I have contacted my arcade enthusiast friends whom were considering MA, and informed them of the issue. This bug needs to be corrected by the developers of MA to be fair to paying customers.

If MA has any tankstick-owning customers left, I ask that they try my, or Photoman's, fix and report their results in this thread.

[photoman]

Nice job Xenor!!!

I hope this will get the ball rolling again on this issue. I think that the issue has to do with the HID device and Maximus.

My OS is XP Home and MA is 2.10b10 reg. And like I said in my post I mapped the Tankstick Manually under keyboard map and did not use the preconfig same as you did.

MAMESEER TAKE HEED TO THIS !! WE ARE WORKING TO HELP YOU FIX THIS !!!!

[spacegoogie]

As it was said in other posts, the exiting problem happens 99% of the time when playing games like mortal kombat, street fighter, and KI. If I play games that have less buttons I can exit.
When I can't I just press all my arrowkeys a few times on my small usb keyboard and I can then use my exit key(s).
We also need to find out why this seems to wake up MA or the tankstick.
check this out if you have not seen this already.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1843&p=7862#p7862
lets keep this going guys. If we the paying customer find our own fix we can just charge Mameseer a small fee
j/k mameseer.

[photoman]

As it was said in other posts, the exiting problem happens 99% of the time when playing games like mortal kombat, street fighter, and KI. If I play games that have less buttons I can exit.
When I can't I just press all my arrowkeys a few times on my small usb keyboard and I can then use my exit key(s).
We also need to find out why this seems to wake up MA or the tankstick.
check this out if you have not seen this already.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1843&p=7862#p7862
lets keep this going guys. If we the paying customer find our own fix we can just charge Mameseer a small fee
j/k mameseer.

Spacegoogie... my setup will exit 100% of the time... every time. Not 99%... not 99.9% EVERY TIME.

So my question to mameseer is .. Why? How is it that I can exit 100% and everyone else can't.

Did you try the setups that Xenor and myself have posted? If not, dont say you still cant exit cause you didnt try our configs.

I tested my setup again last night. Tried all my emulators, random games, random times and I COULD EXIT 100% of the time.

Can you see a common theme here? ... 100% is the key.

[spacegoogie]

Once again, yes. I have everything setup like you said. All i can say is your a lucky SOB. When you say you try different games does this mean mortal kombats and KI? If so then damn it. We need more people to tell us if this is or is not working for them....come on people let us know.
Thanks.

[photoman]

Once again, yes. I have everything setup like you said. All i can say is your a lucky SOB. When you say you try different games does this mean mortal kombats and KI? If so then damn it. We need more people to tell us if this is or is not working for them....come on people let us know.
Thanks.

OK.. I just tried mortal combat 1 & 2 ... exit OK
tried killer instinct 1 .. game does not boot... exit black screen ... 4 sec ... ok
killer instinct 2 ... exit OK

One thing that I forgot in the original post was this change:

in the "preferences" folder for maximus arcade I did go into default.ini with notepad
scroll down to you see [MAME]
then go down 28 lines to
ExitHook=
then change it to
ExitHook=1
Save, and then give it a try

[spacegoogie]

Nice, I will try right now and let you know ASAP.

Thanks!!!!!